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    Van Halen - "World Vacation Tour" Datas (1978):

    1978-01-28 Selland Arena Fresno, CA
    1978-02-08 Pasadena Civic Auditorium Pasadena, CA
    1978-02-18 Pasadena Civic Auditorium Pasadena, CA
    1978-02-25 Whisky A Go Go West Hollywood, CA
    1978-03-03 Aragon Ballroom Chicago, IL
    1978-03-04 Nelson Center Springfield, IL
    1978-03-05 Indianapolis Convention Center Indianapolis, IN
    1978-03-07 Shuffle Inn Madison, WI
    1978-03-08 The Orpheum Theater Madison, WI
    1978-03-09 Riverside Theater Milwaukee, WI
    1978-03-10 Masonic Auditorium Detroit, MI
    1978-03-11 Hara Arena Dayton, OH
    1978-03-12 Leona Theater Homestead, PA
    1978-03-14 Massey Hall Toronto, ON
    1978-03-15 Music Hall Cleveland, OH
    1978-03-16 Veterans Memorial Coliseum Columbus, OH
    1978-03-17 Commonwealth Convention Center Louisville, KY
    1978-03-18 Evansville Coliseum Evansville, IN
    1978-03-19 Morris Civic Arena South Bend, IN
    1978-03-21 Utica Memorial Coliseum Utica, NY
    1978-03-22 Palace Theater Albany, NY
    1978-03-23 New Century Theatre Buffalo, NY
    1978-03-24 Tower Theater Philadelphia, PA
    1978-03-25 The Palladium New York City, NY
    1978-03-26 Calderone Theater Hempstead, NY
    1978-03-29 Duluth Arena Duluth, MN
    1978-03-30 St. Paul Civic Center St. Paul, MN
    1978-03-31 Municipal Auditorium Kansas City, MO
    1978-04-01 Kiel Opera House St. Louis, MO
    1978-04-02 Omaha Civic Auditorium Music Hall Omaha, NE
    1978-04-04 Cain's Ballroom Tulsa, OK
    1978-04-05 Aragon Ballroom Chicago, IL
    1978-04-06 IMA Auditorium Flint, MI
    1978-04-07 War Memorial Auditorium Nashville, TN
    1978-04-08 Murray State University Fieldhouse Murray, KY
    1978-04-09 Boutwell Auditorium Birmingham, AL
    1978-04-11 Corpus Christi Memorial Coliseum Corpus Christi, TX
    1978-04-12 Austin Municipal Auditorium Austin, TX
    1978-04-13 Shreveport Municipal Auditorium Shreveport, LA
    1978-04-14 Will Rogers Auditorium Ft. Worth, TX
    1978-04-15 The Music Hall Houston, TX
    1978-04-16 The Warehouse New Orleans, LA
    1978-04-18 Ellis Auditorium Memphis, TN
    1978-04-20 Ruby Diamond Auditorium Tallahassee, FL
    1978-04-21 Hollywood Sportatorium Hollywood, FL
    1978-04-22 Curtis Hickson Hall Tampa, FL
    1978-04-23 Fox Theater Atlanta, GA
    1978-04-25 ????? Knoxville, TN
    1978-04-27 Rogues Virginia Beach, VA
    1978-04-28 The Palladium New York City, NY
    1978-05-04 Zaal Maeckeblijde or Zaal 't Belfort Poperinge, Belgium
    1978-05-05 Stadsdoelen Delft, The Netherlands
    1978-05-06 Paradiso Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    1978-05-08 Markthalle Hamburg, Germany
    1978-05-09 Markthalle Hamburg, Germany
    1978-05-10 Le Theatre Mogador Paris, France
    1978-05-16 Sheffield City Oval Hall Sheffield, England
    1978-05-17 Floral Hall Southport Southport, England
    1978-05-18 Glasgow Apollo Glasgow, Scotland
    1978-05-19 Aberdeen Capitol Theater Aberdeen, Scotland
    1978-05-21 Newcastle City Hall Newcastle, England
    1978-05-22 Apollo Ardwick Theater Manchester, England
    1978-05-23 Victoria Hall Hanley, England
    1978-05-25 Portsmouth Guild Hall Portsmouth, England
    1978-05-26 Colston Hall Bristol, England
    1978-05-27 Lewisham Odeon Lewisham, England
    1978-05-28 Ipswich Gaumont Theater Ipswich, England
    1978-05-30 Coventry Theatre Coventry, England
    1978-05-31 Leicester De Montfort Hall Leicester, England
    1978-06-01 Hammersmith Odeon London, England
    1978-06-02 Oxford New Theatre Oxford, England
    1978-06-03 Southampton Gaumont Theater Southampton, England
    1978-06-05 Birmingham Odeon Birmingham, England
    1978-06-06 Birmingham Odeon Birmingham, England
    1978-06-07 Bradford St. George Hall Bradford, England
    1978-06-08 Preston Guild Hall Preston, England
    1978-06-10 Hammersmith Odeon London, England
    1978-06-11 Hammersmith Odeon London, England
    1978-06-12 Birmingham Odeon Birmingham, England (Canceled)
    1978-06-17 Shinjuku Kosei Nenkin Hall Tokyo, Japan
    1978-06-19 Shinjuku Kosei Nenkin Hall Tokyo, Japan
    1978-06-21 Nakano Sun Plaza Hall Tokyo, Japan
    1978-06-22 Nakano Sun Plaza Hall Tokyo, Japan
    1978-06-24 Nagoya Shi Kokaido Nagoya, Japan
    1978-06-25 Festival Hall Osaka, Japan
    1978-06-26 Kyoto Kaikan Hall Kyoto, Japan
    1978-06-27 Kosei Nenkin Hall Osaka, Japan
    1978-07-01 Cotton Bowl Dallas, TX
    1978-07-02 Municipal Auditorium San Antonio, TX
    1978-07-03 Armadillo World Headquarters Austin, TX
    1978-07-06 Celebrity Theatre Phoenix, AZ
    1978-07-07 Celebrity Theatre Phoenix, AZ
    1978-07-08 San Diego Sports Arena San Diego, CA
    1978-07-09 Long Beach Arena Long Beach, CA
    1978-07-13 Superdome New Orleans, LA
    1978-07-15 Royals Stadium St. Louis, MO
    1978-07-16 Credit Island Davenport, IA
    1978-07-17 Mary E. Sawyer Auditorium La Crosse, WI
    1978-07-18 Outagamic County Fairgrounds Seymour, WI
    1978-07-19 Engel Stadium - Bay City Central High School Bay City, MI
    1978-07-20 Tulsa Assembly Center Tulsa, OK
    1978-07-21 Jackson Civic Arena Jackson, TN
    1978-07-23 Oakland Coliseum Oakland, CA
    1978-07-31 Rapides Parish Coliseum Alexandria, LA
    1978-08-02 Memorial Auditorium Wichita Falls, TX
    1978-08-03 Municipal Auditorium Lubbock, TX
    1978-08-06 State Fairgrounds Oklahoma City, OK
    1978-08-09 Second Chance Peoria, IL
    1978-08-14 International Amphitheater Chicago, IL
    1978-08-22 Milwaukee Arena Milwaukee, WI
    1978-08-23 International Amphitheater Chicago, IL
    1978-08-24 International Amphitheater Chicago, IL
    1978-08-25 Indiana State University - Hulman Center Terre Haute, IN
    1978-08-27 Madison Square Garden New York City, NY
    1978-08-28 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum Uniondale, NY
    1978-08-29 The Spectrum Philadelphia, PA
    1978-08-31 Erie County Fieldhouse Erie, PA
    1978-09-01 Hampton Coliseum Hampton, VA
    1978-09-02 Pittsburgh Civic Arena Pittsburgh, PA
    1978-09-04 Cape Cod Coliseum South Yarmouth, MA
    1978-09-05 Cumberland County Civic Center Portland, ME
    1978-09-07 Utica Memorial Coliseum Utica, NY
    1978-09-08 Niagara Falls Convention And Civic Center Niagara Falls, NY
    1978-09-09 Baltimore Civic Center Baltimore, MD
    1978-09-10 New Haven Veterans Memorial Coliseum New Haven, CT
    1978-09-12 Indianapolis Convention Center Indianapolis, IN
    1978-09-14 Cobo Hall Detroit, MI
    1978-09-15 Cleveland Convention Center Cleveland, OH
    1978-09-16 Checkerdome St. Louis, MO
    1978-09-17 Municipal Auditorium Kansas City, MO
    1978-09-18 Tulsa Assembly Center Tulsa, OK
    1978-09-22 Selland Arena Fresno, CA
    1978-09-23 Anaheim Stadium Anaheim, CA
    1978-09-24 Anaheim Stadium Anaheim, CA
    1978-09-26 Portland Memorial Coliseum Portland, OR
    1978-09-27 Pacific Coliseum Vancouver, BC
    1978-09-28 Spokane Coliseum Spokane, WA
    1978-09-29 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle, WA
    1978-09-30 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle, WA
    1978-10-09 Audimax Hamburg, Germany
    1978-10-10 Grugahalle Essen, Germany
    1978-10-11 Stadthalle Offenbach, Germany
    1978-10-13 Haldenberghalle Goppingen, Germany
    1978-10-14 Friedrich Ebert Halle Ludwigshafen, Germany
    1978-10-15 Kurnachthalle Würzburg, Germany
    1978-10-17 Hemmerleinhalle Neunkirchen (Nürnberg), Germany
    1978-10-18 Sporthalle Heilbronn, Germany
    1978-10-20 Palais Des Grottes Cambrai, France
    1978-10-22 Rainbow Theater Ballroom London, England
    1978-10-27 Sporthal Koekelare Koekelare, Belgium
    1978-11-03 Bayfront Center Arena St. Petersburg, FL
    1978-11-04 Jacksonville Memorial Coliseum Jacksonville, FL
    1978-11-05 Hollywood Sportatorium Hollywood, FL
    1978-11-08 Boutwell Auditorium Birmingham, AL
    1978-11-10 Mid-South Coliseum Memphis, TN
    1978-11-11 Riverfront Coliseum Cincinnati, OH
    1978-11-13 The Omni Atlanta, GA
    1978-11-14 Mobile Municipal Auditorium Mobile, AL
    1978-11-16 Nashville Municipal Auditorium Nashville, TN
    1978-11-18 Chaparral Theater Midland, TX
    1978-11-19 Nashville Municipal Auditorium Nashville, TN
    1978-11-20 The Myriad Convention Center Oklahoma City, OK
    1978-11-21 Amarillo Civic Center Amarillo, TX
    1978-11-22 Corpus Christi Memorial Coliseum Corpus Christi, TX
    1978-11-23 Sam Houston Coliseum Houston, TX
    1978-11-24 San Antonio Convention Center San Antonio, TX
    1978-11-25 Convention Center Arena Dallas, TX
    1978-11-26 Convention Center Arena Dallas, TX
    1978-11-28 McNichols Arena Denver, CO
    1978-12-02 Oakland Coliseum Oakland, CA
    1978-12-03 San Diego Sports Arena San Diego, CA
    1978-12-05 Veterans Memorial Coliseum Phoenix, AZ

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    Black Sabbath - "Never Say Die Tour" Datas (1978):

    Oct 01 1977 Dave Walker (vocal) e Don Airey (teclados) se juntam a banda por algum tempo
    Jan 06 1978 Rara aparição em um off temporário com o vocalista Dave Walker na BBC (no programa Look Hear) - onde tocaram a música "Junior's Eyes"
    May 02 1978 Ludwigshafen, Friedrich-Ebert-Halle? - (Show cancelado)
    May 04 1978 Erlangen - (Show cancelado)
    May 05 1978 Wurzberg - (Show cancelado)
    May 06 1978 Goppingen - (Show cancelado)
    May 08 1978 Offenbach - (Show cancelado)
    May 09 1978 Dortmund - (Show cancelado)
    May 16 1978 Sheffield, City (Oval) Hall - Van Halen (Primeira data da tour Never Say Die)
    May 17 1978 Southport, Floral Hall - Van Halen
    May 18 1978 Glasgow, The Apollo Theater - Van Halen
    May 19 1978 Aberdeen, Capitol Theater - Van Halen
    May 21 1978 Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Newcastle City Hall - Van Halen
    May 22 1978 Manchester, Apollo Ardwick Theater - Van Halen
    May 23 1978 Hanley, Victoria Hall - Van Halen
    May 25 1978 Primeira apresentação da banda no "Top of the Pops" de 1978. Com a banda tocando a música "Never Say Die"
    May 25 1978 Portsmouth, Guildhall - Van Halen
    May 26 1978 Bristol, Colston Hall - Van Halen
    May 27 1978 London, Lewisham Odeon - Van Halen
    May 28 1978 Ipswich, Ipswich Gaumont - Van Halen
    May 30 1978 Coventry, Coventry Theater - Van Halen
    May 31 1978 Leicester, De Montfort Hall - Van Halen
    Jun 01 1978 London, Hammersmith Odeon - Van Halen
    Jun 02 1978 Oxford, New Theatre - Van Halen
    Jun 03 1978 Southampton, Gaumont Theatre - Van Halen
    Jun 05 1978 Birmingham, Odeon Theatre - Van Halen (Show remarcado, devido à falha de PA. Show remarcado para o dia 6/12/78)
    Jun 06 1978 Birmingham, Odeon Theatre - Van Halen (Show remarcado para o dia 6/13/78)
    Jun 07 1978 Bradford, St. George's Hall - Van Halen
    Jun 08 1978 Preston, Lockley Grand Hall - Guild Hall - Van Halen
    Jun 10 1978 London, Hammersmith Odeon - Van Halen
    Jun 11 1978 London, Hammersmith Odeon - Van Halen (Cancelado devido à falta de PA)
    Jun 12 1978 Birmingham, Odeon Theatre - Tanz Der Youth
    Jun 13 1978 Birmingham, Odeon Theatre - The Damned (Continuação do show do dia 6/5)
    Jun 14 1978 Manchester, Apollo Ardwick Theater - Tanz Der Youth
    Jun 15 1978 Manchester, Apollo Ardwick Theater - Tanz Der Youth (or Fabulous Poodles?)
    Jun 16 1978 Bridlington, Bridlington Spa - Tanz Der Youth
    Jun 17 1978 Liverpool, Empire Theater - Tanz Der Youth
    Jun 19 1978 London, Hammersmith Odeon - Tanz Der Youth (Filmado Profissionalmente)
    Jun 22 1978 Segunda apresentação da banda no "Top of the Pops" em 1978. Com a banda tocando a música "Never Say Die"
    Aug 14 1978 Chicago, IL, International Amphitheatre - Van Halen (Show Cancelado)
    Aug 22 1978 Milwaukee, WI, Milwaukee Arena - Van Halen
    Aug 23 1978 Chicago, IL, International Amphitheatre - Van Halen
    Aug 24 1978 Chicago, IL, International Amphitheatre - Van Halen
    Aug 25 1978 Terre Haute, IN, Indiana State University, Hulman Center - Van Halen
    Aug 27 1978 New York City, NY, Madison Square Garden - Van Halen
    Aug 28 1978 Uniondale, NY, Nassau Coliseum, Mitchell Field Complex - Van Halen
    Aug 29 1978 Philadelphia, PA, The Spectrum - Van Halen
    Aug 31 1978 Erie, PA, Erie Fieldhouse - Van Halen
    Sep 01 1978 Hampton, Hampton Coliseum - Van Halen
    Sep 02 1978 Pittsburgh, PA, Civic Arena - Van Halen
    Sep 04 1978 South Yarmouth, Cape Cod Coliseum - Van Halen
    Sep 05 1978 Portland, Cumberland County Civic Center - Van Halen
    Sep 07 1978 Utica, NY, Utica Memorial Coliseum - Van Halen
    Sep 08 1978 Niagara Falls, Niagara Falls - Van Halen
    Sep 09 1978 Baltimore, MD, Baltimore Civic Center - Van Halen
    Sep 10 1978 New Haven, CT, Veterans Memorial Coliseum - Van Halen
    Sep 12 1978 Indianapolis, IN, Indianapolis Convention Center - Van Halen
    Sep 14 1978 Detroit, MI, Cobo Hall - Van Halen
    Sep 15 1978 Cleveland, OH, Richfield Coliseum - Van Halen
    Sep 16 1978 St. Louis, MO, Checkerdome - Van Halen
    Sep 17 1978 Kansas City, MO, Municipal Auditorium Arena - Van Halen
    Sep 18 1978 Tulsa, OK, Assembly Center - Van Halen
    Sep 22 1978 Fresno, CA, Selland Arena - Van Halen
    Sep 23 1978 Anaheim, CA, Anaheim Stadium - Boston (HL), Van Halen, Sammy Hagar, Richie Lecea, Russia
    Sep 24 1978 Anaheim, CA, Anaheim Stadium - Boston (HL), Van Halen, Sammy Hagar, Richie Lecea, Russia
    Sep 26 1978 Vancouver, P.N.E. Coliseum - Van Halen
    Sep 27 1978 Portland, OR, Memorial Coliseum Complex - Van Halen
    Sep 28 1978 Never Say Die é lançado nos US
    Sep 28 1978 Spokane, WA, Spokane Coliseum - Van Halen
    Sep 29 1978 Seattle, WA, Key City Arena - Van Halen
    Sep 30 1978 Seattle, WA, Key City Arena - Van Halen
    Oct 01 1978 Never Say Die é lançado no UK
    Oct 09 1978 Hamburg, Audimax - Van Halen
    Oct 10 1978 Essen, Grugahalle - Van Halen
    Oct 11 1978 Offenbach, Stadthalle - Van Halen
    Oct 13 1978 Göppingen, Göppingen-Uhingen Haldenberghalle - Van Halen
    Oct 14 1978 Ludwigshafen, Friedrich-Ebert-Halle - Van Halen
    Oct 15 1978 Würzburg, Kürnacthalle - Van Halen
    Oct 17 1978 Nürnberg (Nuremberg), Hammerleinhalle - Van Halen
    Oct 18 1978 Bad Wimpfen (Heilbronn), Stauferhalle - Van Halen
    Oct 20 1978 Cambrai, Palais Des Grottes - Van Halen
    Oct 22 1978 London, Rainbow Theatre - Van Halen, Lucifer's Friend
    Oct 31 1978 Atlanta, GA, The Omni - Van Halen, The Ramones (Show adiado para o dia 11/13/78)
    Nov 03 1978 St. Petersburg, FL, Bayfront Center - Van Halen
    Nov 04 1978 Jacksonville, FL, Jacksonville Memorial Coliseum - Van Halen
    Nov 05 1978 Hollywood, Hollywood Sportatorium - Van Halen
    Nov 07 1978 Columbus, OH, (Show não confirmado)
    Nov 08 1978 Birmingham, AL, Boutwell Auditorium - Van Halen
    Nov 09 1978 Nashville, TN, Nashville Municipal Auditorium - Van Halen (Show não confirmado?)
    Nov 10 1978 Memphis, TN, Mid-South Coliseum - Van Halen
    Nov 11 1978 Cincinnati, OH, Riverfront Coliseum - Van Halen (Veja os reviews deste Concerto abaixo)
    Nov 13 1978 Atlanta, GA, The Omni - Van Halen, The Ramones (Show remarcado do dia 10/31/78)
    Nov 14 1978 Mobile, AL, Municipal Auditorium - Van Halen
    Nov 15 1978 Huntsville, AL, (Show não confirmado)
    Nov 16 1978 Nashville, TN, Nashville Municipal Auditorium - Van Halen (O Black Sabbath não quis tocar no show, somente o Van Halen tocou no show)
    Nov 17 1978 Austin, TX
    Nov 18 1978 Midland, TX, Chaparral Center - Van Halen?
    Nov 18 1978 Odessa, TX, Ector County Coliseum - (Show cancelado)
    Nov 19 1978 Nashville, TN, Nashville Municipal Auditorium - Van Halen (Veja os reviews deste Concerto abaixo, Continuação do show do dia 11/16/78)
    Nov 20 1978 Oklahoma City, OK, The Myriad - Van Halen
    Nov 21 1978 Amarillo, TX, The Amarillo Civic Center - Van Halen (Show não confirmado)
    Nov 22 1978 Corpus Christi, TX, Memorial Coliseum - Van Halen
    Nov 23 1978 Houston, TX, Sam Houston Coliseum - Van Halen
    Nov 24 1978 San Antonio, TX, Convention Center Arena - Van Halen
    Nov 25 1978 Dallas, TX, Dallas Convention Center - Van Halen
    Nov 26 1978 Dallas, TX, Dallas Convention Center - Van Halen
    Nov 28 1978 Denver, CO, McNichols Sports Arena - Van Halen
    Dec 01 1978 San Bernardino, CA, Swing Auditorium, National Orange Showgrounds - The Ramones
    Dec 02 1978 Oakland, CA, Oakland Coliseum Arena - Van Halen
    Dec 03 1978 San Diego, CA, San Diego Sports Arena - Van Halen
    Dec 04 1978 Long Beach, CA, Long Beach Arena - The Ramones
    Dec 05 1978 Phoenix, AZ, Veterans Memorial Coliseum - The Ramones
    Dec 07 1978 Abilene, TX, Taylor County Coliseum - Head East
    Dec 08 1978 El Paso, TX, El Paso County Coliseum?
    Dec 10 1978 Albuquerque, NM, Tingley Coliseum
    Dec 11 1978 Albuquerque, NM, Tingley Coliseum
    Dec 11 1978 Última data da tour Never Say Die - Também o último show com Ozzy Osbourne nos vocais do Black Sabbath, até o show do Live Aid em 1985

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    Van Halen & Black Sabbath Concert Reviews

    Van Halen & Black Sabbath Concert Reviews

    November 11, 1978

    Cincinnati, OH
    Riverfront Coliseum



    FAN SUBMITTED TOUR REVIEWS & REMARKS

    A review by Sunlion

    I saw Sabbath again on 11/11/78, same venue...

    That was the year Van Halen became well-known, with Eddie going wild with the Hendrixish air war and arpeggiating guitar. It was what we were waiting for, and that was, in my opinion, the peak of their career. After that, it was almost a crime that they were referred to as 'heavy metal.'" Heavy Metal was Sabbath and Zeppelin and certainly not Van Halen. The term became seriously corrupted through misuse.

    It's sort of amusing to think back on the days when Eddie Van Halen was considered a great guitarist- amazing how far the guitar craft has come along- he's nothing compared to modern guitarists like Mike Keneally, for instance.

    I say all of this because Black Sabbath didn't want to be blown offstage by this hot new band Van Halen who was their opening act. The fast guitar of Eddie Van Halen was the reason much of the audience was there, and it seemed that Sabbath tried to compete with Van Halen by playing THEIR game. Too much fast guitar, it seemed, not the careful, thoughtful, craftsmanship that made Black Sabbath such a powerful force. Compared to the time I'd seen them in '77, it was like seeing a different band, one who had deliberately sought to change its sound to keep up with the times. Huh?!

    I can't imagine what Sabbath would sound like now. I think I heard the original band is playing together again? I've seen some bands evolve over the years until there are no original members at all- or just one, who still miraculously hold onto the original spirit of the band's sound. Two excellent examples are Three Dog Night, who has/had just one original member, but who really captured the spirit of the original sound and did not sound like a cover band at all. I also saw "The Byrds" circa 1996, and though none of the originals (heck, the one who'd been with them the longest had joined in '75, I think) were with them, they were really good. The Eight Miles High psychedelic jam was stellar. I'm digressing again.

    But after seeing the change in Black Sabbath from '77 to '79, even without personnel overhauls, I'm scheptical that the band today could capture that original vibe. Then again, Sabbath had been playing for about 8 years before MY first show, so maybe old-timers would say they were already over the hill by '77

    Posted by: Joe Siegler Author Profile Page at December 1, 2009 10:26 PM

    http://www.black-sabbath.com/tourdat...r_11_1978.html

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    Van Halen & Black Sabbath Concert Reviews

    Van Halen & Black Sabbath Concert Reviews

    November 19, 1978

    Nashville, TN
    Nashville Municipal Auditorium

    FAN SUBMITTED TOUR REVIEWS & REMARKS

    A review by Nathan Craddock

    Hi Joe...

    Well, I told you many months ago I would send you this review, and I weren't kiddin'. So here it is. You might want to hyperlink this to both November 16 and 19 of November 1978 during the Never Say Die tour since only Van Halen played on the 16th and the 19th was Sabbath's make up show. It was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, so I'll do the best I can to remember back in the day, Man. Disco was in; we believed that it sucked. Well, Sabbath is still here, and Studio 54 closed down a long time ago.

    First off, I showed up at Nashville, Tennessee's Municipal Auditorium on November 16, 1978. I have some profound memories of shows in this place; I saw Sabbath, Rush, Nugent, Blue Oyster Cult, Alice Cooper, Van Halen (including these shows) and many other bands that actually included guitar solos, remember those? I couldn't tell you whom I was with that night, but It was probably my ol' pal Pepe (pronounced peppy). I am sure that the place reeked of reefer, since all of those concerts did back then, Man. So I was a young buck of 14, and a true Sabbath fan. I got started young. I know; it's bad. I had heard of this band named Van Halen and somehow got them confused with some guy named Van Morrison. Van Morrison didn't play that night. But, the opening act, which I had never heard before, was pretty damned kick ass. I will get into the significance of these two acts playing this show later, but let's say that Van Halen was a marked contrast to Black Sabbath. They were a particularly athletic band, both visually and aurally. They represented Southern California glitz, excitement, and energy. We all know about Van Halen's style today, so I need not continue. I was particularly blown away with this new tap off thing that made the guitar player sound like he was playing 1000 miles per hour. This was the early intro of shred, as heavy metal and hard rock music was becoming less rooted in the blues.

    So here's what happened next: Nothing happened next. About 15,000 or so people, probably more, waited around for about an hour, and then this poor guy came out on stage, whose job it was to tell the entire crowd of rowdy Sabbath fans, hell raising southerners at that, that there would be no show that night and to come back the following Sunday November 19 to see the band. Everyone was instructed to get a little movie theater type ticket, the kind you've seen at every state fair, and return with it for admission. Needless to say, the place went fairly well ape shit. You must remember, this was not a canceled Pavarotti show. Somebody threw a fire extinguisher at one of the drum sets; people were chucking implements at the glass that surrounded the entire arena. I remember one guy kicking a trash can down the hallway, yelling and screaming, seriously pissed off. Thus, it was a pretty unmanageable scene. Yet, the upshot is that I got to see Van Halen again, which was pretty cool, since they were a very hungry badass new band that had not yet recorded the song Jump!

    So, finally, out came Sabbath. I can't remember specific songs; I have only a general impression since it has been so long. Judging from your site's set list, it is probably accurate. It was dark, heavy, and just beautiful. Tony Iommi's guitar was piercing and bludgeoning, just like on the albums. I remember Geezer Butler wailing away on his bass. He had a bunch of curly hair and a big seventies mustache. I actually saw the original Sabbath back in the day! Ozzy apologized to the audience and sort of laughed saying "Too many drugs." I am not sure if this was a rumor, the truth, or a figment of my imagination, but I thought I heard that Ozzy passed out in somebody else's hotel room, I assume without anyone in the entourage knowing where he was. Whether this is true or not, stranger things have happened with this band, I am sure. One thing about Black Sabbath that is for sure, they are one of the loudest bands I have ever seen and heard. My ears rang for three days after this. The same thing happened later when I saw the Mob Rules tour. The only other band that has equaled Sabbath's volume that I have seen is the punk, hardcore band DRI.

    Now, for a little analysis, Van Halen and Black Sabbath were two very different bands, and I believe this show represented the changing metal scene. Sabbath was the older blues heavy, very dark, very British band, while Van Halen represented the new wave of spontaneous fluorescent heavy metal that would come to dominate much of the 80's. It was still quite good at this stage, but it turned into a lot of vapid hair metal as time went on. VH were quite good players and were very American, SoCal in particular. Sabbath was as heavy and melodramatic as it could come. Contrast the colors black (what else) and fluorescent green to get my drift. Both were great in their own rights and offered much to the spectator. Ozzy, I believe, jumped on the band wagon when he hired Randy Rhoads and company to form a flashier solo act. Consisting of skilled Southern California metal players, Ozzy's act was a formidable competitor to the Van Halens of the day.

    I am glad as hell I saw Sabbath when I did; the same goes for Van Halen. I probably hold Sabbath a bit more precious as a live experience since the original line up broke up shortly thereafter, and I got to see Van Halen a number of time throughout the years. I am glad that so many years after, Sabbath is still going strong as ever (their live DVD attests to this) and the guys are living drug free. And, Ozzy can find the right hotel room.

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    http://www.black-sabbath.com/tourdat...r_19_1978.html

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    Van Halen & Black Sabbath: Classic Photo 1978!!!!!!

    Here is man, the classic photo of the Van Halen and Black Sabbath together! Edward and Tony are totally drunk !!!!!!! Wowwwwww!!

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    GOD DAMN that's a lot of shows in 1978. They kept coming back to California at all different parts of the tour. Crazy how touring was the way to get your name out & promote an album back then compared to today.
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    humberto5150, the "world vacation" tour was the 1979 tour.
    the 1978 tour didn't actually have a nickname.
    it's just the "1978 van halen world tour".
    if anything it should have been called the "in your face" tour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ace diamond View Post
    humberto5150, the "world vacation" tour was the 1979 tour.
    the 1978 tour didn't actually have a nickname.
    it's just the "1978 van halen world tour".
    if anything it should have been called the "in your face" tour.


    Would have been so great to see those shows. But in 1978 I was 7. The only music I liked was Band On The Run - Wings, and Hound Dog - Elvis Presley.

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    Not that a thread here needs a purpose and it's cool seeing all those tour dates but...........is there a reason you're posting this other than to promote your own blog?

    I'm not trying to bust any balls here, just curious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Not that a thread here needs a purpose and it's cool seeing all those tour dates but...........is there a reason you're posting this other than to promote your own blog?

    I'm not trying to bust any balls here, just curious!
    Humberto always did the same all other VH's forum but it's a nice guy! you must stop it sometimes

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    The link to that photo only leads to the login page at classicvanhalen.com.

    However, I will say this.

    If he was spamming this board for anything else, I would be irritated.

    But his fucking blog is very worthy.

    He even has a fucking scan of a ticket stub from the show I was at!!


    My ticket stub collection from all the shows I had gone to from 1974 to 1982 was stolen in 1982, so I have not had my personal stub from the Seattle 9/29/78 show since that time.

    Great selection of posters, photos, ticket stub scans and everything else about that tour!
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    He's got great info on his site, no doubt about it. I was just curious as to why the '78 tour. Was he there? Are VH and Sabbath his all-time favs and seeing them together was a dream come true or being too young at the time, pissed that he missed such an epic tour.

    You know, shit like that. I really wasn't trying to bust his chops, just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    ...GOD DAMN that's a lot of shows in 1978...
    The working side of CVH... and they grew to one of the greatest american Bands ever...
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    "Never Say Die" would be a great name for VHs next album/tour, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    He's got great info on his site, no doubt about it. I was just curious as to why the '78 tour. Was he there? Are VH and Sabbath his all-time favs and seeing them together was a dream come true or being too young at the time, pissed that he missed such an epic tour.

    You know, shit like that. I really wasn't trying to bust his chops, just curious.
    You also have to wonder why just about all of this info on this "blog" is simply taken en masse from Black Sabbath online...
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    ........that or "Holy fuck! We actually made an album and are touring, tour".

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    You also have to wonder why just about all of this info on this "blog" is simply taken en masse from Black Sabbath online...
    He did take the time to compile it........

    Without context, it kinda just lays there.

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    come to think of it...they should cover the tune "Never Say Die" because it summarizes the last 27 years or so.

    "People going nowhere, taken for a ride..." LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    He did take the time to compile it........

    Without context, it kinda just lays there.
    No, it appears that he "compiled" someone else's work on his site. Compounding that, the work is linked to a VH blog, instead of it's original source. This is like making a DVD out of other people's Youtube clips, then saying "Look what I created!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    No, it appears that he "compiled" someone else's work on his site. Compounding that, the work is linked to a VH blog, instead of it's original source. This is like making a DVD out of other people's Youtube clips, then saying "Look what I created!"
    At least the blog is written in portuguese...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post
    At least the blog is written in portuguese...
    Yeah, it's wonderful when someone takes the effort to cut and paste articles, video clips and images from the VHND, translate them, post them on a web site yet forget to include where those articles, clips and images originally came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    ...yet forget to include where those articles, clips and images originally came from.
    I agree... that's not right

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Yeah, it's wonderful when someone takes the effort to cut and paste articles, video clips and images from the VHND, translate them, post them on a web site yet forget to include where those articles, clips and images originally came from.
    Damn, you just described my entire college experience

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    Very interesting.
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    I agree about the cut and past stuff. Still, he did do it for the sole purpose of putting together info from the tour in 1978. So yeah, no kudos for cut and paste, but then, he had to get his info from somewhere, and I do give him a sorta thumbs up just for putting the info in one place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    I agree about the cut and past stuff. Still, he did do it for the sole purpose of putting together info from the tour in 1978. So yeah, no kudos for cut and paste, but then, he had to get his info from somewhere, and I do give him a sorta thumbs up just for putting the info in one place.
    I hear what you are saying, but I also feel that if it was your work this guy was appropriating, you'd feel a bit differently.

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    Humberto 5150 is now a young man (18 years), he loves sure VH , he does things by passion ! and feeling! What i said, you must stop him sometimes when he always posted only links for his blog! Many times he found on the net, rare pics or interviews of VH.Thanks Humberto even if he did mistakes ... for example when he didn't thanks sources.

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    Hey, the kid means well. No need to bust his balls. Just offer guidance and hopefully he'll get some details right next time. This is VH land we're dealing with here, we need something to fuckin talk about, ffs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by diamondsgirl View Post
    "Never Say Die" would be a great name for VHs next album/tour, IMO.


    I agree..................it would make a great title.
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    DJ hit the nail on the head. He just needs to learn to give credit where credit is due. Still a nice collection of stuff in one neat package though.

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    Joint tour with Sabbath? Not really possible, not now anyway. I guess at one point in time the key word in the phrase was JOINT but oh well!
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    Since I was the most vocal about Humberto not crediting the sources he used for his site, it is also incumbent upon me to be the first to point out that as of this morning (1/25/2011), he has taken steps to revise his blog to include the appropriate links to the various websites he has used.

    Nicely done and much appreciated, Humberto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Since I was the most vocal about Humberto not crediting the sources he used for his site, it is also incumbent upon me to be the first to point out that as of this morning (1/25/2011), he has taken steps to revise his blog to include the appropriate links to the various websites he has used.

    Nicely done and much appreciated, Humberto.
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    by any chance does anyone have a copy of this show on CD? I heard rumors so i have no clue. If you know of anyone, let me know and them so we can hook up and make some deals!
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    This performance of I'm The One is FUCKING INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!

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