Ed talks shit about Hendrix (again)

**Diamondjimi** · 03-17-2009, 12:40 AM

EDDIE VAN HALEN: 'I'm Really Nothing Like JIMI HENDRIX' - Mar. 16, 2009

In a recent article in USA Today, Eddie Van Halen was referred to as "the Jimi Hendrix of his generation."

What does Eddie think of accolades like that? "I say it's a hell of a compliment, but at the same time I'm really nothing like Jimi Hendrix," he tells Spinner.com, quickly adding that he doesn't mean any disrespect. "I'm just saying I'm very different than Hendrix because I create stuff. He used so many effects and stuff that I was the complete opposite. I wanted the guitar to do things, but nobody built the guitar that I wanted. Hendrix didn't do things like that. He was an amazing player, but if you ever heard any live bootlegs of him, even some of the Woodstock stuff, it's hard for him to keep that thing even tuned."

**Diamondjimi** · 03-17-2009, 01:38 AM

"I'm just saying I'm very different than Hendrix because I create stuff."

Hendrix worked with Roger Mayer creating and modifying FX pedals. Effects many after him take for granted...
Hendrix was an innovator in studio production. Backward recording and creating sonic landscapes with his music.

"He used so many effects and stuff that I was the complete opposite."

Tape delays, MXR Phase 90, MXR Flanger, Variac voltage regulator...
Plus:

Yeah , the complete opposite...

"I wanted the guitar to do things, but nobody built the guitar that I wanted. (insert Fender Wolfgang plug here)Hendrix didn't do things like that. "

Hendrix did things on a pretty much stock Strat , Buddy Holly could never have dreamed of...

He was an amazing player, but if you ever heard any live bootlegs of him, even some of the Woodstock stuff, it's hard for him to keep that thing even tuned."

Back peddle + slag rebuttal... nice Ed...

No, not an influence at all huh? 'Lil bit of Jimi feedback (sans amp humping) and some Jimi dive bombs....
I think if Jimi chose to be the fastest player in town ,I think he could have achieved it...
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Is that a Phase shifter I hear?

And having a Floyd Rose couldn't save this astounding performance... sorry Ed...

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**Panamark** · 03-17-2009, 02:47 AM

Im not an Eddie sympathist, but EVH has performed some
shit (live) that Hendrix never came close to.
I guess if you love Jimi you could throw in the good old,
"but if he lived longer"...
Eddie, Randy, Yngwie all blew away Hendrix's stuff...
But Hendrix built the path, no doubt about it !!!

Eddie was the egg, and Jimi was the chicken.
(No disrepect intended !)

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 02:48 AM

First of all, Hendrix was an incredible song writer and in my opinion he put more emphasis on the song than the guitar itself...

Most good Van halen songs were based on riffs Ed came up with in the early 70's as evidenced on early boots and most likely put together with much help from Ted Templeman and Donn Landee...

But still, Hendrix and maybe a couple others like Buddy Guy invented everything Edward ever did besides tapping...so...

Fuck Edward

**Panamark** · 03-17-2009, 02:59 AM

Elvis me old mate ! How about a Youtube of Hendrix that
will make my mind blowout, something that will force me
to reconsider my whole way of thinking...

BTW, I think the Beatles played Revolution before Jimi
ripped his speakers !:tongue0011:

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 03:01 AM

Ok...gimmie a sec...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 03:17 AM

Here's one...

And crank it up!

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**Panamark** · 03-17-2009, 03:25 AM

Taking into consideration the year '67 (a good one too !)
Thats impressive.
Put it side by side with one of your riffs, and I would
think your playing is better..
So maybe I still dont get it ???
(Again no disrepect, I think you are better than Hendrix !!)

**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 03:28 AM

**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 03:44 AM

Many, many people have played Strats, and NO ONE.....could get as much out of it as Hendrix.

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 03:52 AM

I have the ability to kinda make a solo (and rhythm) flow with a bit of flair, which to me was the most impressive thing about Edward...and he's how I learned it...

But that's exactly what he lacked on the last tour and it was sad to see...

Oh, how bout this one ??

Killing Floor 1966 - before he ripped his speakers...

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And check out how the song evolved in less than one year...

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**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 03:55 AM

One more...

Albert Hall - Foxy Lady

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**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 03:56 AM

Hendrix never seemed to play the same song the same way twice....Ed used to be that way with his solos...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by hideyoursheep

Many, many people have played Strats, and NO ONE.....could get as much out of it as Hendrix.

That's bullshit!

Watch this...

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**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 04:01 AM

Hendrix appreciation....why not?

Ed's been looking for a guitar that does what he wants his whole life.

What does he want?

A guitar that plays itself while he sits at home on his ass?

**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by ELVIS

That's bullshit!

Watch this...

Comparing Wankvie to Hendrix is like comparing a red crayon to a rainbow...

I don't think you hear Hendrix...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 04:14 AM

I can hear hendrix and I can out play anyone I know personally, so i've been told...

A few members on this board have heard me play a few things...

**Panamark** · 03-17-2009, 05:36 AM

HYS, I've heard him, he's top shelf !
I thought I was ok, until I heard him.
Sesh is another hidden gem..
But E is da Man

Unless someone shows me differently !

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 06:30 AM

I appreciate that...

I have a few new things and I also have drums now and been playing regularly for about a year and a half...

When I was 18 I was playing in a band with this awesome black Randy Rhoads freak and we were equal, although My old best friend and awesome bass player said I was better...

Anyway, when the drummer went home i'd get on the drums and we would Jam Ozzy, but the very first time I got on the drums the guitar player was amazed and asked "You ever thought about being a drummer ??

So I always wanted drums but didn't get them until recently and i'm doing pretty good playing all kinds of music, not just rock...

So sooner or later I plan to be posting some complete songs...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 06:33 AM

BTW, we thought it sounded so good with me on drums, we made a 10 song live recording that came out really well and I took it that night and I guess it fell through the hole in my VW Baja floor...

I drove around looking for that tape for weeks...

**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by ELVIS

I can hear hendrix and I can out play anyone I know personally, so i've been told...

A few members on this board have heard me play a few things...

dude, DUDE, DUDE!

Unless your are Yngwie, I have no idea where that came from..

When did I say YOU sucked?

I'd never heard you...WTF??

**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 06:42 AM

BTW, ELVIS...

I'm thinking about getting a 7 string..

Do you have any, and how do you like it?

**Panamark** · 03-17-2009, 06:48 AM

Man..... that sucks ass

Hey, (going way off topic again) but have you ever
heard an original riff in a dream, thought (while you
are still dreaming) I'm gonna remember this when
I wake up and its so awesome !!!

*THEN*

You wake up, have your morning piss, grab a coffee,
do whatever the fuck you do for a few hours, then
(as with all dreams) something triggers the memory
of the dream/riff... Except 9/10 times you cant
recall the actual music, just the fact that it
was there in your dream...

Man that fucks with my head

**Panamark** · 03-17-2009, 06:49 AM

Shit, I should have quoted Elvis, I didnt mean you suck
ass Hideyoursheep !! lol.....

**Panamark** · 03-17-2009, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by hideyoursheep

BTW, ELVIS...

I'm thinking about getting a 7 string..

Do you have any, and how do you like it?

I would like to see a 7 string with an extra high string,
instead of the low one...

Dunno why, would probably suck, but would love to try some
sweeps down to a mega high note without doing gymnastics
to find it...

**Cato** · 03-17-2009, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by ELVIS

That's bullshit!

Watch this...

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are you serious?

**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Panamark

Man..... that sucks ass

Hey, (going way off topic again) but have you ever
heard an original riff in a dream, thought (while you
are still dreaming) I'm gonna remember this when
I wake up and its so awesome !!!

*THEN*

You wake up, have your morning piss, grab a coffee,
do whatever the fuck you do for a few hours, then
(as with all dreams) something triggers the memory
of the dream/riff... Except 9/10 times you cant
recall the actual music, just the fact that it
was there in your dream...

Man that fucks with my head

More than a few times, actually...that's odd.

I can't wait for the technology where you have electrodes attached to your head while you sleep, and record your "dream riffs" on your ipod.

**Va Beach VH Fan** · 03-17-2009, 07:11 AM

I don't believe Ed was talking shit at all, he goes out of his way to compliment Jimi....

**CVH Rulz** · 03-17-2009, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan

I don't believe Ed was talking shit at all....

I agree...

Here's the whole article:

Eddie Van Halen Dismisses Jimi Hendrix Comparisons

When Eddie Van Halen talks about guitars, people listen. It's like LeBron James waxing poetic on the art of the assist, or Kate Winslet on getting acting awards. Van Halen is that highly regarded in the guitar world. In fact, in a recent article in USA Today, he was referred to as "the Jimi Hendrix of his generation."

High praise indeed. What does Eddie think of accolades like that? "I say it's a hell of a compliment, but at the same time I'm really nothing like Jimi Hendrix," he says, quickly adding that he doesn't mean any disrespect. "I'm just saying I'm very different than Hendrix because I create stuff. He used so many effects and stuff that I was the complete opposite. I wanted the guitar to do things, but nobody built the guitar that I wanted. Hendrix didn't do things like that. He was an amazing player, but if you ever heard any live bootlegs of him, even some of the Woodstock stuff, it's hard for him to keep that thing even tuned."

Growing up in Southern California, Van Halen got turned on to the six-string by surf music. "The first song I ever learned was 'Pipeline,' by the Surfaris, and 'Wipeout.' Then I hear this song on the radio -- it was the 'Blues Theme' on the soundtrack to 'Easy Rider,'" he says. "It was the first time I heard a distorted guitar, and I'm going, 'God, what is that?' I didn't really have an amp then. I went to Dow Radio in Pasadena, and I jerry-rigged this plug to plug into the stereo. I just turned the damn thing all the way up, and it distorted. So every amp I've ever used, I just turn it all the way up."

All of Van Halen's guitars, starting with his famous first model, Frankenstein, have been custom-made. And now he's taken his 35 years of experience and put it into the Wolfgang, his new Fender guitar, named for his son. "One more shot working with a major company to give people what I use," he says.

The guitar went through two years of vigorous testing, according to Van Halen. "I'm pretty hard on Fender, and I make sure that they keep an eye on the people that make the parts that go into my guitars and my amps. I'm not a tyrant -- it's just that my name and my son's name are on it, and I don't just endorse, I build it."

Of course, today's technology makes everything so easy, which Van Halen doesn't see as a good thing. "I think it stops people from being creative, because they don't have to," he says. "But also, to me, it lowers the standards. I don't know who exactly is in charge of the MP3 player, the iPod business, who decided that is gonna be the standard sampling rate, because it's nothing compared to a good mastered LP, nothing at all."

Isn't that thinking a bit antiquated, back to the way of the dinosaurs? "Yeah, maybe, but dinosaurs ruled this planet a lot longer than people have," he says, laughing.

Eddie Van Halen Dismisses Jimi Hendrix Comparisons - Spinner.com

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by hideyoursheep

dude, DUDE, DUDE!

Unless your are Yngwie, I have no idea where that came from..

When did I say YOU sucked?

I'd never heard you...WTF??

I was just making the point that I can hear and discern gutar playing, thats all...

I guess I could have said it differently...

And Mark, I have dreamed guitar before but it wasn't as good as what goes through my head while awake...

I constantly hear drums bass and guitar in my head in all sorts of patterns and arangements...

But usually, when i've been playing regularly, the first thing that I start playing off the top of my head is the best, and if I record that, listen to it over and over and add some bits it's usually good...I think anyway...

And back to Sheep...

I'm not interested in a 7 string guitar or a 5 string bass...

I have enough trouble with 6 and 4...

**ZahZoo** · 03-17-2009, 08:17 AM

Pathetic... Ed needs to go do a little more history study on Jimi before he opens his trap.

The only significant difference between effects usage was Jimi used a distortion pedal and Ed didn't. Jimi used an octavia... Ed used an Eventide harmonizor. Jimi used a uni-vibe Ed used the harmonizor, delays, phaser and flanger. Jimi used a wah... Oh Ed didn't but now markets one... Bullshit.

Hendrix wrote and produced more albums worth of original material in 3 years than Ed has done in 30.

The whole irony I see with Ed is he "thinks" he's created stuff. Reality... he takes stuff from others who created it and tweeks it. He the ultimate tweeker...

This is ultimately the case with all of his musical gear... nothing created just a bunch of stuff tweeked. Guitar playing isn't much different. None of Ed's tricks were his creation... tons of others did the same before. Ed just tweeked them a bit and now calls them his own.

**hideyoursheep** · 03-17-2009, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by ELVIS

I'm not interested in a 7 string guitar or a 5 string bass...I have enough trouble with 6 and 4...

I felt the same way until recently.

Well, I'm gonna get me one and see what's doin'...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 08:24 AM

Yeah Zah...

""I'm just saying I'm very different than Hendrix because I create stuff."

Hendrix didn't create "stuff" ??

**Nickdfresh** · 03-17-2009, 08:27 AM

All I know is the Hendrix Woodstock DVD I caught a while back is as good as anything I've ever seen live rock and roll related...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by hideyoursheep

I felt the same way until recently.

Well, I'm gonna get me one and see what's doin'...

I appreciate the sound of a low B string, but i'd just rather tune down to D or do alternate tunings...

7 strings would confuse me...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Nickdfresh

All I know is the Hendrix Woodstock DVD I caught a while back is as good as anything I've ever seen live rock and roll related...

I have that, but if you want to see the Experience in their prime, get the Monterey DVD...

There's also a CD version that has way better audio and includes a way heavy version of Can You See Me, which wasn't filmed for some stupid reason...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 08:34 AM

Here it is...

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**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 08:50 AM

I'll bet not many of you have heard this...

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Who ever said Noel Redding was not that great on bass can kiss my ass...

**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 09:06 AM

Here's a cool short clip...

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**ELVIS** · 03-17-2009, 09:08 AM

Here's an excellent live clip...

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That's some good Live Hendrix...

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